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Post by Tori Hall on Aug 17, 2009 16:42:51 GMT -5
Hey Guys, Congrats on making the finals. Just so you guys know what you say this TC will probably decide my vote. But if not I've got a default. So don't worry to much  Tori, At one point in the game you and I had a final 2 deal. Obviously you broke that deal. Perhaps what you didn't know when you did that, is that I was genuinely going to honer that deal if I had the opportunity and if the game turned out like I hoped it would. Now that I've told you this would you still vote against me that tribal council or would you try to keep me around? Also through out the game you were pretty under the radar. E.g. You never joined in on jokes we were having fun in the camp boards (or at least not as much as Merlin), you only ever posted if it there was something you needed to say never just to be sociable or to joke around. My question is way this your strategy or are you just a shy person in real life? You both of you, When ever I play ORG's I'm always curious what the person behind the character is like. So could you guys please just give me a quick run down of who you are. Obviously I don't care about you're private address and phone number and stalker type stuff. Just were you come from (City, Country). What you do. And what your personality is like. E.G. My name is Leigh, I'm from Melbourne, Australia. I am a high school student. I'm a guy who like chix And am currently single. In my spear time I usually spend it one the internet or watching some on my favorite shows on DVD. I have a few friends at school and we like to hang out after school or on weekends sometimes. I play the guitar in a band. But we're pretty bad. I have a shoes fetish and have over 20 pairs. I like shopping with friends and always buy skater clothes. I hope that gives you guys enough of an idea of what I want.  Peace you couple of penis fans. To be honest i at least made a final 2 deal with you, Kristy, and Merlin at some point in the game. I made these deals with you guys cause that would increase my chances of making finals. Now Keith i made a alliance with you and Kristy becuase i though it would for sure be us in final 3 together. If i had a final 2 deal with both of you id be going to finals not matter what. I respect that you would have taken my to finals with you if you had won the final challenge. I had to make a strategic move and vote you out though either way. I knew that you were the only person left from the other original tribe and if it had been you and me sitting here in finals together i think you would have a better chance at winning cause you made it to finals and didnt ave your original tribe still in the game. I was pretty silent at times but i used that as a stratagey too this season. Sometimes its good if your not as outspoken as some other people becuase if you are they might see you as a threat becuase you really active. In real life i am a little shy but theres really no reason ot be shy in a org game so i just used the shyness as a stratagey and was hoping that it would help me in this game. My name is Arthur and i am 16 years old. My birthday is january 10th 1993. I am currently attending South east high school and today was my first day as a Junior. In high school i like to play sports. I am planning on trying out for the soccer team and i think we start practice wendsday. My favorite subjects in school are P.E, JROTC, and Photography. This school year my electives are Drama, JROTC, Team Sports, and Practical Law. In elementry i went ot school at Adams 1st through 5th grade. There i meet my best friend Jordon. Me and my friend Jordon then meet 2 more of my friends which were Matthew and Jonathan. Us 4 hung out throughout elementry. After elementry Jonathan moved away to Airizona Matthew went to Robinson and me and Jordon went to Coleman. Right before we graduated my friend Matthew calasped one night and had my friend Jordon told me he passed away in the hospital that night. It was a devastating time for me and Jordon but we had to move on. I am currently at Southeast with Jordon and we stay incontact with Jonathan. My favorite color is Blue and my favorite flavor is strawberry. When i have free time i like to watch Big Brother and Survivor episodes with my mom. Over the weekends i hang out with my friend Jordon and his family and my cuzns. We have been to the movies this whole summer and the movie i liked the beest so far is Transformers 2. I know that a movie called the Final Destination 3d is coming out soon so i think that might become my fav movie once i see it. |
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Post by Tori Hall on Aug 17, 2009 17:21:06 GMT -5
Susie's QuestionsI feel like This is the shortest amount of questions ever...ToriTell me who you have played as in this series and you will get my vote unless Merlin can somehow pull 1,000,000 different things out of his ass to feed my ego. Also, Just for my amusement. Do you think I played a better game than you? What did you actually do in this game?     Israel||Donnie||7th Place Madagascar||Andrea||11th Place All Stars||Donnie||3rd Place Sri Lanka||Willie||3rd Place Qatar||Monique||7th Place Susie i do think you played a better game with me. I made alot of strategic moves that were risky in this game. I played as if i was shy, i had a alliance with everyone on my original tribe and i made 3 final 2 deals. Again being honest i though strategically thos whole game. My plan in final 4 was to vote you out Susie. I had a final 2 deal with both Merlin and Keith and i didnt have one with you so by voting you out i would of been guranteed a spot in finals for sure. I also knew that if i had faced you in finals i dont think my chances of winning would be that good. You were probably one of the obvious power players this season. |
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Post by Tori Hall on Aug 17, 2009 17:35:57 GMT -5
I would like to know what the best move the both of you made to position yourselves to get to the F2 and why would that give you my vote. I had actually made 2 good moves in this game which i think got me to finals. The first best move i made was making a alliance with everyone on my original tribe. By doing that i made sure that in the case we did have to go to tribal council i wasnt a target at all and noone would want to vote me out. I voted with the majority at every single tribal. Once we merged i still had a alliance with my original tribe and with us having the majority we took out the other tribe one by one. At one time in the game i made a alliance with Keith becuase i though with him alligned with me that would only add more numbers to my alliance. The 2nd best move i made was making a final 2 alliance with Kristy, Keith and Merlin. I was hoping to make final 3 with at least 2 of them and if i did infact manage to do that i would be offered a spot in finals just becuase of that. I think both of the moves i made were risky but you do have to take risk in this game and becuase i took those two risk i think i would deserve your vote. |
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Post by Merlin on Aug 17, 2009 18:19:40 GMT -5
Hi and best of luck to both of you in this last TC. Merlin wow I did know that was you Jeff you fooled me this time around but also shocked me and here is why. Jeff I have played a few games with you over the last 4 years and this time around I would have never guessed it was you your style of play was not up to the was you play and Iam very disappointed by that . Toni I have no clue how you ended up in the F2 from what I saw of the game neither of played well enough to get to the F2 but still you are here some how so that must mean you both did something right. I would like to know what the best move the both of you made to position yourselves to get to the F2 and why would that give you my vote. I totally admit that this game, I did not play in the same manner that I normally do. If I did, I can guarantee you that I would not be here in the Finals right now. I am a firm believer in The Nash Report and its relevance to the game of Survivor. This game had so many Alphas that an Alpha was not going to win. When you get two or more people who want to control the game and be top dog, they take each other out because they're each others' competition. One Alpha will normally be left standing, but generally not in a very strong position. They just created a chain of Alphas going out, so that chain doesn't stop. Tpcantins is a perfect example of how Alphas screwed themselves out of the game. Branden and Coach went into the merge with a majority in their tribe, but because they're Alphas, they went after each other and let the underdogs come up and win the game. I saw Kristy and Poh as two Alphas in the PXP tribe right away and knew that if I tried to be an Alpha, I'd ultimately go out. I chose to lay low and try to stay in their good graces to pick my moments to shift the game in my favor. I knew they'd both go out eventually and I probably wouldn't even have to betray either of them for them to go. I picked the strategy best-suited for the circumstances of this game. I think my ability to read people is possibly my strongest asset in these games and that's why I am generally in, or at least very close to the Finals of games. Anyway, I'll get to the direct question asked. I just feel that what I said above ties into both the speech and the question. My best move would probably be contacting several people after they broke my plates in the first challenge. I knew that the winner would have a great deal of influence over who stayed in the game to even make tribes and you can't win if you don't get selected for a tribe. At the same time, I made my alliance with Kristy at that point. I don't believe that my relationship with Kristy benefited me in this game. I don't know how loyal Kristy was to me and all that, but she did give me info and warnings when people brought up my name for a vote. By making that alliance right away, I received info on the actions of several players in the game at once. I also made an alliance with Patti, who gave me a second vantage point in the game. I still talked to players on my own, but between Kristy and Patti, I had all bases covered since between them, they had ties to everyone in the game. They could steer the vote away from me and also they both relayed me information about all players. It left me able to keep tabs on all players and stay well-informed without having to promise many others much of anything and not have my name attached to certain moves, even if I pushed for support of them or even suggested them. So, I do think that creating my alliance with Kristy and Patti was my best move. It set me up in a very safe position in the game. |
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Post by ~KrIsTy MoRgAn~ on Aug 17, 2009 20:44:09 GMT -5
Hey guys!!! In case you didn't recognize the dumb act I was putting on up-front this season, and the person I was behind-the-scenes, well, it's me, jvj, "seasoned vet" of Survivor Earth. But, you both already knew that.  Anyways, on to the important stuff, right? I'm not going to be a bitter juror...I, for one, am happy to see you two as the final two!  The more I thought about it, the more I was. You might not have done the most in the game, but you have both been nothing but great to me personally (well, minus any lies), and I like both of you from the past. First up... Tori-- You know I love you! We go all the way back to Season 4, and although we know we don't know each other much out of this series, we are great friends within it. Anyways......I was attempting to play this game alias. Otherwise, so no one could know who I was and to play as a complete unidentified person rather than going on past connections or anything like that. As Jeff/Merlin pointed out, there are people that come into this series that way and tend to rely on that---although half the time I end up with the same people person (Jake) in one way or another, I didn't want to do that again. (and I haven't done it every time, either--in fact twice I was the reason he was voted out and once he was the reason I was voted out.) Anyways, seems my "aliasness" (word?) didn't work on all, as Keith had me all figured out (and so did you Jeff? I don't know how unless someone told you?LOL). ANYWAYS....the question! (1) Tori, you lied to me and voted me out at Final 5....I pretty much had you figured out as Donnie/Willie, who I was great friends/allies with both times. My question to you is, had I told you who I was in past games (Shannon/Deena/Hoopz), would you have still voted me out, or would you have turned it back around on Susie and tried to get Merlin and/or Keith to do it along with you? (2) Also, my second question.....if you could only have chosen one of the Final 2 alliances you made, which would you choose, and why? (3) How critical do you think the decision I made of choosing the tribes at the beginning of the game was, and how did it impact this game? Onto Jeff/Merlin..... Jeff! Nice seeing you again, I felt like you dropped off the face of the earth. In all seriousness though, you are someone that I played some of my first ORGs with (and you schooled me in them, haha), but I don't think I've really seen you since the Forumsnet days. Anyways, glad to see you haven't lost your touch and are still doing your thing when you play these games. I was going to ask you a question about what you would have done had something else happened in the game, but that thing didn't happen, so I shouldn't judge you on something that didn't happen. I hate when people do it to me, so why would I ask you a question on that? My questions to you are.. (1) Why did you choose to play the game as Merlin? (2) Who on the Jury do you think would most deserve to win the game? Least deserve it? (Sorry, I know this is cliche). (3) How critical do you think the decision I made of choosing the tribes at the beginning of the game was, and how did it impact this game? |
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Post by Merlin on Aug 17, 2009 22:12:01 GMT -5
KristySusie told me who you were during the F4 Immunity Challenge after she posted her AIM and we started talking. Before that, I had no idea, but wasn't really trying to figure it out, either. I was enjoying playing without really knowing who people were. Jeff! Nice seeing you again, I felt like you dropped off the face of the earth. In all seriousness though, you are someone that I played some of my first ORGs with (and you schooled me in them, haha), but I don't think I've really seen you since the Forumsnet days. Anyways, glad to see you haven't lost your touch and are still doing your thing when you play these games. I was going to ask you a question about what you would have done had something else happened in the game, but that thing didn't happen, so I shouldn't judge you on something that didn't happen. I hate when people do it to me, so why would I ask you a question on that? My questions to you are.. (1) Why did you choose to play the game as Merlin? (2) Who on the Jury do you think would most deserve to win the game? Least deserve it? (Sorry, I know this is cliche). (3) How critical do you think the decision I made of choosing the tribes at the beginning of the game was, and how did it impact this game? 1) I chose to play the game as Merlin cause I was watching The Fashion Show at the time and Merlin seemed like an interesting character. I both liked him and was annoyed by him. I felt I could play a caricature and it not be off the personality of the person I based him off of. It was also just a last minute decision. I was originally going to play as New York, but figured that playing the part of a bitch in this game probably wouldn't bode well for me. I felt I could play a more likable character as Merlin. 2) You went out at F5 for a reason: cause you were the biggest threat to win the game. I would say that you're the juror most deserving of winning. You were one of the most active people in the game and you did what you needed to do to get yourself further in the game. I think everyone just realized how set you were in this game come the merge and I think Patti really helped with your downfall, in campaigning about you being the biggest threat in this game to win. People realized that they couldn't go against you in the end and used the F5 to take you out. As for least deserving, this is by no means a shot against Luke, but I'd have to say him. It's not because I felt Luke played poorly or anything, but because Luke did not get the chance in this game to really get started. The tribe swap really screwed Luke over cause he wound up on a tribe where he was the only original Lang Co with three original PXP. He really had no shot at surviving a vote. Had he made merge, who knows what he would have done. However, going out when he did, he didn't really get the chance to show what he could do and that's the only reason I'm saying him. 3) It definitely affected things, for sure. Had Tori and I not started on the same tribe, one of us probably wouldn't be here right now. I wouldn't have felt the need to talk to her and I doubt she would have felt the need to talk to me. At least not until much later in the game. Had Patti been on Lang Co, then she could have possibly built stronger relationships with more players in the game and have had a better chance at succeeding at voting you out to further herself. I feel that the people who made the merge would have roughly been the same since we were the most active of the group, but a few faces might have been different. Also, you, me, Patti, and Poh were a dominant team when it came to the Immunity Challenges. If we were split up, I doubt there would have been a tribal sweep with immunity. It would have been interesting to see what would have happened had we actually lost a challenge and had to vote someone out. Would we have played strategically or worked more on having a strong tribe? Yeah, it played a role because if you change any detail of a game, you risk changing the outcome. Unless you had chosen me as the person to leave off of a tribe, I still feel I could make it to the finals, but the path I took and the strategy I used to get here probably would have been much different. It would have been a lot about adaptation. I actually feel that being able to adapt is a necessity for Survivor games. Those that take control and lead can do well in games, but they can also crash and burn. Those who rely on adapting to situations rather than controlling them, tend to have more success in the long-run.
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Post by Tori Hall on Aug 17, 2009 23:05:51 GMT -5
(1) Tori, you lied to me and voted me out at Final 5....I pretty much had you figured out as Donnie/Willie, who I was great friends/allies with both times. My question to you is, had I told you who I was in past games (Shannon/Deena/Hoopz), would you have still voted me out, or would you have turned it back around on Susie and tried to get Merlin and/or Keith to do it along with you? (2) Also, my second question.....if you could only have chosen one of the Final 2 alliances you made, which would you choose, and why? (3) How critical do you think the decision I made of choosing the tribes at the beginning of the game was, and how did it impact this game? Hey Kristy! I dont know in the first place why i didnt notice that was you in the beginning. I know you one heck of a player and you always have nice avatars. But anyways the only reson i voted you out was becuase i knew you were a strong player since the beginning of the game. I alligned with you cause i knew iwth you as my ally i would get far in this game. Once Poh started warnning us that if you did make finals you would win i at that point had to think strategically and do whates best for me by voting you out. If i had knew that was you i would have still voted you out gurl becuase i know you from other seasons and although we might be the best of friends you are a huge threat and you have made finals a lot of times. If i could have chosen one of the final 2 alliances i made i would have picked Merlin still. Me and Merlin discussed that we both would have a equal shot at winning this game if we both go up against each other in finals. If i had went up against Keith i think i might of lost becuase Keith managed to make it to finals being the last original player from his tribe left. I i had went up against you Kristy i think i would of hands down lost becuase you were a power player the whole season and seeing your gameplay from other seasons you know how to win a lot of these games. I think once you got to pick the tribes i was hoping you would pick a strong tribe and you did. I know that going to tribal is never a good thing for me but becuase our tribe was so strong we dominated in most of the challenges and i avoided tc the most this season. Like i said earlier i did have a stratagey just in case we ever did have to go to tc a lot and that was me making a alliance with the whole tribe. Being alligned with everyone would keep me safe and i would never be targeted. |
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Post by Keith Greene on Aug 18, 2009 1:38:56 GMT -5
Sorry to here about your friend Tori.
But thnx Merlin and Tori. I'm am very satisfied with both your answers.
Good luck both of you.
PS: What's JROTC? Is it an American thing? lol
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Post by Merlin on Aug 18, 2009 3:13:43 GMT -5
PS: What's JROTC? Is it an American thing? lol It stands for Junior Reserve Officer Training Corps. It's a program in high school for those who plan to enlist in the military in the future. Either by enrolling in ROTC in college to become an officer in the military or just to enlist in the military after high school. I was in the Navy JROTC in high school, so I'm speaking from their point of view, but I believe it applies to all branches. Only college graduates who go through the ROTC program can be officers in the military. |
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Post by Keith Greene on Aug 18, 2009 4:43:40 GMT -5
Thnx Merlin. lol
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Post by Tori Hall on Aug 18, 2009 7:23:50 GMT -5
Yeah ive been enrolled in JRTC all 3 of ym years inn high school. I just enjoy being ble to get out of class. We go into the hallways amd do marches and we also do P.T when we go outside and play sports and do some trainning. I guess the part im liking is the physical part.
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Post by luke on Aug 18, 2009 13:15:27 GMT -5
ok thank you both for your answers I will say this Tori you rode coattails the whole game as u stated in your answer and Iam surprized you got away with that but then again I dont know everyone in this game.
Luke
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Post by Poh Ling Yeow on Aug 18, 2009 21:37:57 GMT -5
I'll be posting my question a little later... |
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Post by Tori Hall on Aug 19, 2009 0:34:23 GMT -5
I'll be posting my question a little later... Ok |
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Post by Poh Ling Yeow on Aug 19, 2009 21:27:00 GMT -5
Arrrgh I'm so busy and it looks like I won't be not busy till like...Saturday!!
I'm sorry guys but I'm just gonna have to vote...I can't even read what's happened in this thread....
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Anyways, on to the important stuff, right?
The more I thought about it, the more I was. You might not have done the most in the game, but you have both been nothing but great to me personally (well, minus any lies), and I like both of you from the past.
